Boost compensation
I currently use comp1 in the boost function to allow switchable boost levels. This is a 2d compensation. I now would like to add a safety feature that cuts boost if a fuel pump fails. My idea was to use a 2d compensation on boost to pull boost for a given lambda and load. In the motec menus usder boost I now only have comp2 left which is a 1d compensation.
Is there any way to add another 2d compensation to the boost function?
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It seems the easiest just glancing at this would be to move your switchable to Comp2 (I am guessing you are only using one axis), and then use Comp1 to achieve your goal. Another way would be to use a differential pressure sensor, and then use that data input to trim boost back if the delta between manifold pressure and fuel pressure deviates. Just my $.02, which is not worth much as the dollar keeps falling. :D
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Boost switch uses both axis of comp1. I'd rather not have to install another sensor to overcome this issues. Seems there shouldn't be any reason why motec can't do it. Just wondered if anyone had figured out a way to get round this limitation.
I could do an ignition pull with a 2d compensation, but that would leave the car undriveable if the error state got triggured as I would pull all the timing.
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Wouldn't it be better to pull the rpm limiter on to 3000rpm instead of pulling timing?
(pull the timing and it'll try and do the antilag thing making more boost)0 -
What version of ECU Manager are you using? If you are on Version 3.xx onwards, the Boost Comp 1 can be a 3d table while Boost Comp 2 is 2d. You'll have to press "a" in the table and a menu will appear. Just setup the axis whatever way you want and it should do it.
TK
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Ah sorry, when i say 2d/1d I was refering to the measured axis. So 2d is a 3d table, not very clear my mistake.
I really like the rpm limit idea, i'll post up my initial table for comments and reference once i've done it.
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Could always use the Max Duty table to kill all boost control based on Fuel Pressure, i.e. when fuel pressure is low max duty for boost control is 0.
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Another though. You can always get an unused Auxiliary Output table and do a 0-100% output based on two axes, this can then be the axis for a 2D table in the boost control function.
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Thanks Mark. I think i'll try the rpm limit first.
Is there any way to drive a light and have it configured for areas of my table where I am RPM limiting. I know it should be obvious when the limiting is taking place but i'd like positive confirmation of what is going on.
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Ok Uvii,
Just be a little careful when using the RPM limiter to make sure a noisey axis channel cannot bring the RPM limiter on unexpectedly.You could setup a simple output based on a table using the "RPM Limit Setting" channel as the axis to turn on your light.
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If it happens at power trust me it gets your attention!
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I'm sure it will, my old porsche rpm limit was so hard it felt like you had hit a wall.
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The thing with doing it this way is if the limit is set low say 3000 and you have a low pressure event at 7000 the engine will go full hardcut and shut the ignition down for the delay time you've set.
You can't fail to notice, it's ugly but very effective and saving mechanical damage.
If you set a reasonable delay it gives you time to lift the throttle totally so when the ignition comes back on you don't backfire the engine. (you really don't want to see pics of how I came up with this)
I wouldn't discount Mark's suggestions though as ANYTHING he comes up with will be far more elegant!
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Love to here everyones suggestions, I learn stuff from this as well BUT my usual though when ever anyone suggests how to do something I always think "halfway through turn 1 at Phillip Island and X happens.....how will that affect the car?". My thoughts are always with making sure your engine saving setups don't send you spinning off the track at 150kph. :o
A basic warning light before any cut/rpm limit/whatever may be much better than anything becasue it gives you time to set the car up for slowing down.
I have had systems setup on cars where it all gets a bit complicated for the driver when they are in the zone of driving......if they are a little unsure of what will happen they can loose confidence and therefore are ultimately slower. Somtimes you have to K.I.S.S.
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Mark: LOL point taken ;)
Just thinking back to the old days NONE of our drivers could see warning lights!
(might be different for people who pay for their own engines though)If it goes off in your above scenario all it does is scares the crap out of you and you slow having NOT ignored a light because you're racing for sheep stations!
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